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So thought I would provide some information around my reduction and lift as there doesn't seem to be heaps on here for surgery not requiring a BA. I was initially a very deflated 34E I finally bit the bullet and went for advice initially asking about a lift, I was advised I had very dense tissue in my breasts and could get away with a small reduction as well, was happy to go a bit smaller as always struggle with clothes that I want to wear v what had to wear. My only concern pre-op was around tha anaesthetic couldn't get my mind around the sleep one minute awake the next, but all went smoothly was given Temazepam as ore med and calmed any nerves. woke with a burning sensation around the nipples and verticals incision but pain relief helped, was given either panadol or oxycodone for pain, was planned for day surgery but unfortunately had vomiting post op and drop in BP so stayed over night, After that was pretty uneventful took panadene forte at night for 3 days and nurofen and panadol in day. Was difficukt sleeping on back as I love to sleep on my side but seemed to manage ok, pain was bearable more sore than painful. Was straooed up for first week and swollen so felt tight from the strapping was a relief to get removed, liked how the new boobs sat so was very happy. From there it has been weekly changing of the tape to incision lines, no major issues and healing well. My left nipple is numb but have full sensation in the right. I did develop a small blister as a reaction to the tape just near my cleavage all healed now. I had the op on a Saturday and went back to work after 10 days so was back the following Wednesday did feel tired at work the first 3 days. I am now starting to find that I sporadically sleep more often on my side again and this isn't painful so happy. I have been taking the crop too of for last 4 nights and have found I am less sore from doing this I think it irritates my horizontal incisions at night. I purchased a post op surgical bra from target to wear. The swelling has certainly reduced but the boobs remain pert and happy they are still a decent size currently around a 34 (12) D Have just brought an off the shoulder top which can wear with a bandeau bra. my incisions are still a little tender to touch, sometimes I get the sensation of my breast feeling full, a bit like they do premenstral but it's not that time. so far a very contented lady

I just want to play devils advocate here. I made the choice to get implants, and I love having boobs. But unfortunately I’m one of the ones where something has gone wrong and I need a revision (I had my op Dec 2017) and I knew within a couple of months I would have to get them fixed. Make sure you go with a surgeon who guarantees their work and will fix if anything goes wrong at minimal cost to you, otherwise you could be paying 2-3 times what you initially thought you would be. I have to make another appointment with my PS to discuss revision soon. This will also mean More time off work after another operation, so lost income on top of everything else as I am self employed. And Medicare and Private Health no longer cover any cosmetic procedures.

I have textured Silimed implants which are now no longer used here in Australia. I also got my implants 5 years ago. I just have had a mammogram + ultrasound and the implants are fine. I understand there are risks with this implant but at this stage I cannot afford to replace them. I will just keep a close look out on my health.

@Baileys agree with the girls comments above. At six weeks you are still early days and the drop and fluff has barely begun. You will notice significant changes over the next few weeks and months. Take weekly pictures so you can see the changes and try to be patient xo

Hey hun, it's a really hard decision. Both types have pros and cons. Anatomical may lead to rotation, but if you follow your surgeon's instructions to the letter, the risk is minimal. Rounds are a bit more likely to cause capsular contracture, but not for everyone. Anatomicals look more natural, but many rounds these days appear to settle into a natural shape too. For me, anatomicals and under the muscle were recommended due to my lack of breast tissue and my desire for a totally natural look and it was absolutely the right choice - for me. Over the muscle heals faster and drops and fluffs faster. Maybe you should make a list of the pros and cons and then decide which one has the most pros for you - good luck with your decision and I'm sure other girls will chime in with advice and preferences and it's all helpful to get everyone's experience xo

6 weeks post op is early days! It can take up to a year for the D & F process to finish. You would still have some swelling and the muscles would still be tight after surgery. Try to give it time. x

@Baileys I haven't had mine done yet but I've seen lots of girls post op pics from day one and as far as 6 to 9 months on and they change dramatically and do seem to always look significantly bigger when the drop and fluff effect fully takes place which seems to take some time so wouldn't be to concerned yet give it a couple more months see if they get bigger. Search in the forum for "before d&f and after d&f pics" you can see the changes for yourself 😊

Hey @Kit yes you can get a really natural look with a BA. Mine look natural and "real".

I started off as a 10AA cup (aka flatter than flat!). I got 270cc under the muscle which took me to a small C cup. So if you are starting off with not much breast tissue then I would say yes.

Thanks so much for helping me everyone. I did actually go to see a psychologist about this. She said that she thinks I want this, but am fearful about it and that is just fear and anxiety. However, as you all say, I know that no one can make this decision for me or know what I want, whether it be the health professionals or you lovely ladies on this forum! If someone could wave a magic wand and fix my breasts tomorrow I would 100% do it. It's the implants that I'm not 100% sure about... because of all the risks and lifelong expense. For a whole year I looked into breast fat grafting and even considered going to the US to get it done but I'm very skinny and every surgeon said I just don't have enough fat, so for me the only way to make my breasts look better is implants. It's implants or nothing. It is so helpful to get your perspectives though because you made the decision and went and got the implants, whereas none of my friends or my psychologist have been through that. It does sound like all of you were more sure than me that you wanted it done. Argh. I have been thinking about this for sooo many years and done so much research and consulted six surgeons. I just don't want to keep umming and ahhing about this until I'm 50, wondering do I want it, should I get it done, would it look good, is it worth it etc. It's a horrible state to be in! I just want to make the decision and be done with it! I oscillate so much. One minute I think yes they'll be great I'll be fine, 5 minutes later I think no it's not worth it I just can't do it. I am supposed to see the surgeon for my pre-op appointment early, 3 weeks before surgery. I could pull out after that appointment. Do you think I should cancel now if I'm not sure, or go through with that appointment? I should have waited until I was 100% sure before booking surgery, but I was just so sick of thinking about it and I thought just do it to put an end to this indecision! Now I feel under more pressure. But maybe the pressure is good because I can't go on wondering about it forever, I need a time limit on this decision.

I had the exact same feelings as you prior to surgery and I also had researched having a BA for many years. But after breastfeeding 3 kids and having 10AA cup boobs on a skinny body, I felt like crap. In the end, I made the decision to go ahead and so at the age of 39, I got implants. I went for a natural look with teardrops under the muscle and am now a 10C cup. I have had my implants for nearly 5 years, and I have absolutely no regrets. Life is too short to feel like crap. Plus my kids have a happy and confident Mum. x

Hi I'm a PT and fitness instructor and teach a 3 Pump classes a week as well as other Les Mills programs and frestyle classes, i also run, as long as you have a good supportive sports bra you will be fine and my boobs do not get in theway at all during my training and all of my tops/dresses still fit but much better i went from a 10 A/B to a 10 E/F (depends on the style of bra to what cup size fits better). I have textured anatomicals so mine wont sag so much as they adhere to the surrounding tissue but if you go under the muscle you will have the muscles to hold the implant up plus it acts as to camouflage the edg of the implant so you dont get that bolt on look. Yes i have anatomical dual plane placement (partial unders ) , there is a very and i mean very small risk of implant rotation but if you gave a surgeon who is experienced in placing anatomical implants then that is very unlikely that it will happen and no you do not loose any shape just look at my picture above .😊

If you went under muscle placement then your muscles will still be compressing the implant, the reason they look small is because your post op swelling has almost subsided and you will soon be starting your drop n fluff stage which starts from about week 6 give or take and can last for up to the 1 year mark , yes its true you will loose a little upoer pole fullness( but not all of it) as its the law of gravity and you can't compete with gravity, as your tissues/muscles start to relax you will find that your breasts will start to grow, it is a process that takes months (mine kept growing up to 10 mpo then settled then at 14 mpo they changed again) give it time and take weekly pictures you'll be supprised at how much they change.

Hi, I too have Mentor textured anatomical implants and 19 mpo so far no issues , i am lead to belive that the ALCL is associated with Allergan (Natrelle ) and polyurethane (PE coated) implants, i belive that these typs of implants have are not being made any more but there still some in circulation I have agree with @sabP and think you are unnecessarily worring yourself and like mentioned above check your breasts regularly, i would not have agreed to let my surgeon incert textured implants if i didn't believe the risk was minimal

@AnniC - actually it can give you upper pole fullness after D & F - because the muscle releases and they pop so to speak. That's how it was and is for me.

Hey @simply_me I got 375cc dual plane. The pain wasn't that bad for me. More the tight, stinging feeling. I only took painkillers the first day, then panadol for a couple days. You get zingers for a few weeks/couple months which are like little zingie electric shocks, it's your nerves regenerating after having the muscle cut, not painful, just a bit odd and can take you by surprise as it's random. Also sleeping upright was the worst!!... I hate sleeping on my back and you have to sleep propped up by pillows for the first week or two (depends what your surgeon recommends). If you have to wear a surgical bra that can be a bit constricting and uncomfortable, but not painful, again I wore mine 24/7 for the first 6 weeks, then after that normal and underwire and push-up bras were fine - again your surgeon will recommend. By the end of two weeks they felt reasonably comfortable, still tight - but ok. I felt they were natural looking from early on and they just kept getting better. The D & F starts around the 6 week mark and that process is interesting to watch and document with photos.

@sabP thanks for all the info yeah i think I'll be recommended the same thing when i go for my consult Tuesday cause I too have lack off tissue on top, and a previous consult I had recommended it already with a 315 to 350cc in dual plane position lol how many cc did you go if you don't mind me asking also how long did the pain last and how long did it take before they started to feel more comfortable and natural on your body if that makes sense

@pink butterfly thank you so much yeah I'm more interested in going teardrop as I want the natural look too just worried about rotation not sure if i would be able to go round anyway cause I too don't have much tissue after having 3 children but I'll see what he says lol, pictures are a great idea I got a few of what type of size I'm after fingers crossed he can do it lol

Hi i have anatomicals and am 19 mpo and still have some upper pole fullness but not as much as when they were about 6 months old and unfortunately no breast implant will retain the upper pole fullness like it has when it is first inserted its the law of gravity so if thats the look your trying to obtain then you might like to look at an ultra high profile implant (uhp or extra high ) they tend to give a bit more of a round and high look this is what happnes to the scilicon /saline in an implant after a period of time (ot the drop n fluff )

Hi @simply_me just wondering how your consult went, if you have any questions please feel free to ask we are laa here to help 😊

Hi @Kit i asked my surgeon for exactly that a natural augmented look and thats whst i got, i hsce 440cc hp moderate height anatomical implants dual plane, as for sizers you can google how to make rice sizers its pretty easy all you need us a bag or rice and some knee hi stockings, you will also need a firm fitting sports bra to mimic your chest muscles and a fitted white T shirt , if you send me a FR you will be able to see my progress pics and i have some in there with me in the rice sizers .

Take a list of questions that you want to ask in case you forget sth on the day.

@sabP Thanks for that and I will have a look at that thread @simply_me My initial consult was bulk billed. I did have a referral so not sure if that made any difference. The receptionist is lovely so I’m sure she would give you a consult price over the phone. I haven’t yet had further consults but I’m assuming there would be a fee. Cost of surgery and implants was just under $10k, plus extra $1200 for anaesthetist fee. I was recommended 290cc moderate profile or 340cc high profile anatomicals which I was happy with as I wanted a very natural “un-augmented” look if there is such a thing.

Oh really i didnt no medicare would rebate you for a BA consultation lol but thats good to no so thank you 😊.. I have read alot of the forums and he does sound promising just keep reading how conservative he is which is great but apparently if u want big u gotta really push for it lol im not good at pushing so i just hope he let's me get a decent size haha right now I'm like a small B and would like to get to a nice natural looking D lol

Hi and welcome @JD* @JD* went through Dr Kollias in Adelaide when she sees this post she will be able to give you more details but the avarage cost for a straightforward BA is around $9 to 11,000 and if you obtain a referral from your doctor you can claim a rebate from medicare for the cost of your consultation.

Hey lovely, I am not far off your age, same height but I weigh 60kg and I have 375cc under muscle teardrop and I am a 12DD - I also was aiming for a C but I'm really, really happy with what I have ended up with, they are not too big at all and look amazing in clothes and naked! I am very active, I run, dance, swim, go the gym and they are fine for all of that. Do you have much breast tissue to start with? Good luck with your surgery and let us know how you go

Hi and welcome, sorry to hear the start to your ba journey has not been a good one, i myself have no experience with a hematoma but i am lead to believe that it does take time for the swelling to subside, my advice would be to take one day at a time and try to be patient and kind to yourself, you have many changes to come and your breasts look good so far once the brusing and swelling has subsided they will look much better. Take care and keep us updated on how your doing.

I want the same thing as you! Would love to see your goal pics? My dr also recommended anatomical and overs...I’m nervous!

I dont think that anatomcial implants mean that they cannot have lots of upperpole fullness. Have you seen Abby Dowse and Pia Muehlenbeck? They are both had anatomical implants with Dr Tavakoli and are quite full in the upperpole. Anatomcial implants are usually considered less cohesive than rounds

I didn't have a lift with my ba but i did and do have one breast that is bigger and sits lower than the other and i dropped and fluffed at different rates so yes while it can be normal i would check with your ps just to make sure ther were no asymmetry before your surgery.

Hi and welcome, @JD* is from Adelaide and went to Dr J Kollias i believe and she is very happy with her results, hopefully she will see this post and reply

(This post is my personal experience and everyone has the right to their opinions and informed choices). I am looking at it explanting ASAP due to BII, rupture and discomfort. I was a thin ribby, pigeon-chested, deflated 10B after breastfeeding 3 so I can totally relate. The implants did and still do look amazing. But I am so, SO sick. Full of inflammation and neurological problems, unbelievable fatigue and a list of symptoms as long as my arm. It was not worth it; the money I don’t mind so much, the loss of quality of life is priceless. Can not wait to get these things out and to try to heal my body. I don’t want to scare you. I am sure many women have implants with no/little complications, but this is my experience. Good luck with your decision xx

My question to myself when I was so scared and unsure was "If I get to the end of my life, would I have regrets about not getting my boobs done?". I then knew the answer. Everything in life is scary...…...particularly having kids...…..getting married...…..driving in the car every day. You have done your research, you have seen 6 surgeons and you have obviously been really sensible gaining all the information you need in order to make the best decision for your body. As you said, no one can make this decision for you. Maybe you just need more time and that's okay too. For me, I got sick of feeling like sh!t and that in the end outweighed the fear.

It is tough for you and vacillating back and forth is clearly driving you nuts! (I say that in a nice way :) ) I'm glad to hear you spoke with a psychologist. If you are still not 100% sure then maybe cancel and wait some more. I'm sorry I did have to laugh at your comment about being 50 and still umming and ahhing. I had mine done at 59 - even though I wanted them from my early 20s... There were many factors over the years that stopped me. Initially implants were kind of ugly and only very rich people could afford them. Then the time just didn't seem right for various reasons, I also felt a bit embarrassed thinking people would think I was unnecessarily vain or stupid for wanting nice boobs. But when I was in a place financially and emotionally and quite frankly, did not give a f*** what anyone else thought, I just went right ahead and got them. I am so glad I did, I have not one moment of regret. I love them and I feel so much better about my body, like this is what it should have been like all along. I am super fit and healthy. You can friend request us if you want to see our gallery pics and then you can see progress from pre to post surgery and how they change and evolve over the weeks and months. :)

Hi i agree with @sabP is there someone you can talk to who will have an unbiased opinion, i too had wanted boobs since my early 20s as wasn't blessed in that department then after breastfeeding 2 children they were like two deflated water baloons. There is risk with any surgery weather it be for cosmetic or reconstructive, to joint replacement ect, i did years of research and consulted with many surgeons and even though i had wanted this for years it didn't Chang the fact that i was scared, nervous and did the whole what the hell am i doing thing , but the final decision has to be yours no one can make that for you, however with the fact that you have some pretty strong feelings of doubt you could ask to postpone your surgery for a coupleof months until you have the chance to talk it through with someone, sorry i couldn't be of more help, and i wish you luck with what ever you decide.

I have just booked in for an explant after having a revision 2 months ago due to movement. I first got implants last May. It's not worth it. I've been feeling tingling all through my body and light headed and I cant think properly. I wish I had looked further into breast implant illness before I went ahead. It is so wrong that surgeons don't tell you the risks. They tell you silicone is inert, but they dont tell you it is heavy metals that make the silicone cohesive and that when they remove peoples implants after less than 10 years they are seeping. People have silicone in their lymph nodes. Please join a bii facebook group and see how many people have similar symptoms and how most are resolved after implant removal. This was an almost $30K mistake for me!! I hope I can save someone else from it. I was the same as you, unhappy with my small empty breasts after breastfeeding.

Hey @MissS - pre-surgery nerves and anxiety are quite normal. But from what I'm reading in your post, you are having serious second thoughts and that is quite different. Is there anyone you can talk with apart from your husband? Someone who can offer objective advice on your decision making process? Personally I wanted boobs my entire life, but that's because I was completely flat chested (12AA) and could never find a bra that fit and swimwear made me self-conscious and some clothes never looked right. I finally decided to go ahead in December 2017 after doing my due diligence into all the pros and cons and finding a top plastic surgeon. Once I talked my options through with him, my mind was set and I never wavered. I did not have any pre-surgery jitters (although I know some girls do). I am also extremely happy still with my decision to go ahead and with the outcomes of my surgery. In the end, no-one can make this decision for you and yes it is a big decision and in some ways life altering. Given your level of anxiety you may experience regrets, but it is really hard to say as I don't know you. I'm sorry I can't be of better help in your decision, but like I said earlier, talk to someone objective. And good luck with your decision, whichever way you decide xo

Yesterday was surgery day for me and wow that came up quick! I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who posts on this forum and who has shared their journey. I haven’t posted much myself cause I’ve found all the info I’ve ever needed was already there with a quick search. The biggest help were the post op photos and comments saying that how they look straight away is not how they stay. I’ve gone under the muscle and without that knowledge I would have been so disappointed with how they look right now. But I know that through the d&f process they are going to keep looking better and better. So thanks again everyone xx

Congratulations on the new boobies, and yes you'll have lots of changes to come, take weekly photos, you'll be supprised at the changes when you look at them side by side, hope the healing process goe smoothly and can't wait to hear all about your experiences.

Thanks for replying! Your boobs look great! They look very natural to me 😊 I am active- some running, hiking, occasional light weights- used to do more pump classes but ran out of time. Play netball. I dont want to have to buy to buy specific clothes for boobs. I’m a size 10 but wondering if sagging over the muscle is an issue? Limited google search says no?? Most of the boobs I’ve saved from insta, on reflection do look round with definite definition. I also don’t want to see the see the outline of implant- does it sound unlikely with the implants recommended? Thanks so much for your expertise and sharing your pics! 😊

Hi Girls, So as recommended I went to see Dr Jodlovich for my botox and cheek filler treatments. I'm beyond happy!! He was very professional and gentle with his injecting technique. The results are simply superb. I bumped into him at city cafe near my workplace 2 days later while I was with my colleagues and instead of feeling embarrassed about having cosmetic work done, I felt very comfortable walking over to chat to him and advising my colleagues to see him for all their cosmetic needs.The feeling was empowering as I'm now the group favourite for finding the best cosmetic doctor in Sydney! Thanks again girls for suggesting him to me.

Hi Girls, I've been seeing Dr Tom Jodlovich for both my lip filler and anti wrinkle treatments now for over a year with exceptional results every time. Having being to other doctors who have rushed through the treatments, Dr Tom takes his time to understand what results you want to achieve and spends all the time need to achieve it. I can recommend him to everyone as the best injector in Sydney. Hope this answers your questions and leads to your desired results Cheers, V.C

Hello! I am having a Breast Reduction with Mr Tim Brown next month. I've seen a lot of ladies who have had BA's with Tim, and would LOVE to read some Reduction experiences. Has anyone here underwent a Reduction with Tim? Also, if anyone reading this is either booked with Tim or considering him I'm happy to share my experience. I've noticed there really isn't any reviews on reductions specifically. I know what it's like to be in the crazy research phase lol, so happy to help! So far, it has been wonderful. Tim, his nurses and practice staff have made me feel so at ease. Just counting down to the big day now! Thank you

I've recently had a breast reduction HH to D/DD. (1 month post op) I achieved a good gap between my breasts. I use to always swing my breasts to each side in my bra, mostly so my nipples didnt show low in front not to achieve a gap. But I did comment that I could see down to my toes once the reduction was done.

I thought we needed one post where we could all come and update on our recovery and beyond. I've noticed a few ladies have seemingly disappeared, but hopefully they'll come back and let us know how things have been since their op. I know that in the lead up to making my decision on whether to go ahead with the op or not, reading a bunch of recovery and beyond stories helped me immensely. Hopefully we can help other forum visitors by giving them a heap of them in one post.

Has anyone had this procedure with this PS? I would love some feedback please. thank you

Dr Rizk was amazing. I could not fault him. I was so nervous going into the consult and came out feeling so excited. He try's to accommodate your needs and what look your going for. I went to the crows nest day surgery where all the nurses were unbelievable. A couple of them commented on how nice and how good Dr Rizk is. They've seen some of his work and they look a lot better to what they have seen with other surgeons. Cosmeditour were really good as well. They seriously organise everything for you. There's also a private Facebook page for cosmeditour clients. Everyone made everything so stress free and exciting. The whole experience from start to end was amazing. I'm also pretty picky and expect a high standard and I just felt really looked after. I am already happy with my results. It's only early days, in a little bit of pain but nothing I can't handle. I'm happy to help in anyway. You have definitely made the right choice.

Hi Barb72, I was in a similar spot to your daughter, and had a breast reduction at the age of 17. I know it's not an appropriate age for all young girls, but it certainly was for me. It was the best thing my family could have done for me as I regained my confidence and comfort and most importantly I could participate actively in life as opposed to watching from the sidelines. My surgery was quite extreme, 2.5kg out on a 43kg frame (at the time... 12 years on now so I'm not weighing in at 43kg . I had the procedure that left anchor scaring, and even as a young woman this has never bothered me. The benefits far outweighed the scarring. Good luck with your decisions and information sourcing.

oh dear...sorry to hear about the complications. Was it due to poor technique from the surgeon or dressings complications or did the body just play up? sometimes even optimal care still doesn't prevent the body from tweaking out in the tricky spots,was it at a T junction? Hopefully it heals very soon. Supplements can assist in skin healing too, like extra protein, high doses of vit C with bioflavanoids added, silica, zinc and fish oil, all taken internally. They can help with cell regeneration, collagen formation and decrease the chances of further inflammation and irritation. But when there is so much pressure on the incision lines with so much tissue, all of the above still has no magic wand. But it certainly does give the body the best fighting chance to dose it up with nutrients! I really hope it settles for you soon.

I had BR/BL on 23rd Oct, so far so good, loving the smaller, perkier breasts. Initially only had minor pain, this fluctuated and I did experience slightly higher pain about day 3-4, but still not too bad. I have followed the doctors instructions, rested, used my analgesia and anti-inflammatory medications. Also wearing post-op bras and kept the duoderm dressings on that they used post surgery. At two weeks changed over to Siltape, will continue to use this for ???, time will tell. I actually thought I had gone too small but it is actually looking to be a good size now, went from 12f-g, but very empty, to a perky 12d. Not being able to exercise has been a bit of a blow, but walking and treadmill has been ok. Started off just walking the dogs, hubby took both of them and I just walked along with them. Treadmill has just been a bit slower paced and less time than before but now I am at five weeks and pushing up to my usual time frames and close to my pre-op pace. Keen to start some more serious exercise though. Used to do a youtube one called 5 day fitness blender, free and a good allround workout. Sexually, my partner misses my boobs, but says he loves me anyway (he didn't mind my saggy daggy boobs either) and just wants me to be happy....of course he will be happier when he can "play" with them...lol, miss that too. Bruising was there but not too bad, I spent one night in hospital, came out when the drains were removed. Felt pretty good. Slept in our bed straight away, did find my back ached after about 3 nights as I was twisting in my sleep and putting strain on my back...after about a week I could sleep almost on my side, used a v pillow. Went back to work after 2 weeks off. Work as a Clinical Nurse, Mental Health. Only worked on open ward and have just done my first shift on the locked ward. Have just started wearing BNT complete comfort, without wire Bras while at work, put the post-op bra on when I get home and to sleep in. I have a very supportive partner who has done all the heavy housework, including the laundry, but he usually does the bulk of it anyway....love him. In hindsight I wish I had a TT too, how vain am I, lol. Really happy with my boobs though...maybe when I can start exercising again my tummy might be a bit better, it's not actually too bad. More than willing to answer any questions about my op, just friend me, send a message and I will answer...good luck to anyone considering this op.