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Hi all,

I was just wondering about breast implant related illness and whether or not anyone has any experience with this?
I am in the research stage of my breast augmentation and have come across some stuff on the internet that says breast implants can cause health issues such as chronic fatigue, brain fog, IBS, intolerances etc

Does anyone have any first hand experience with this? is this something I should be concerned about. Im finding it hard to access any information online that is not impartial. I also find the big list of symptoms hard to attribute to having breast implants.

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15 minutes ago, BMurph said:

Hi all,

I was just wondering about breast implant related illness and whether or not anyone has any experience with this?
I am in the research stage of my breast augmentation and have come across some stuff on the internet that says breast implants can cause health issues such as chronic fatigue, brain fog, IBS, intolerances etc

Does anyone have any first hand experience with this? is this something I should be concerned about. Im finding it hard to access any information online that is not impartial. I also find the big list of symptoms hard to attribute to having breast implants.

Hi @BMurph I have no related illness or side effects from my implants, however I am only day 12 post op. Other ladies may wish to respond, however I am a researcher and if you go to legitimate peer-reviewed medical websites for a literature search you should find reliable scientific research that may relate to your interests. If you are looking to conduct a survey of women on this site then you would need ethics approval.

Try https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/

and here's an article I found searching for breast plant illnesses that was published this year:

https://insights.ovid.com/crossref?an=00006534-201711000-00061

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From my understanding surgery (as in any surgery) can trigger autoimmune diseases. I have Hashimoto's disease. It wasn't picked up until around 3 years ago and I've a few surgeries not just plastic surgery. It's to do with the fact surgery is stressful on the body so these diseases that were lying dormant can be triggered. 

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okay so i am not an expert on this but I have been hit hard this year with a whole bunch of unexplained issues alot which fit the crieteria for breast implant related illness and I can say that now my implants are out I am feeling much better.

I had my implants for 4 years before they started causing me issues and i truly beelive the problem was that my implant had a micro rupture and was causing an acute inflammatory response in the breast and my body probably responded accoringly.

I would have no hesitation getting implants again because i really feel that my issues were caused by faulty or almost ruptured implant.
Interestingly I asked to keep them and the implant in my inflammed side was yellow. I picked it up the other day to have a squiz and I noticed air bubbbles inside it, there are none on the right implant which looks to be a normal colour. 
So i squeezed the apparently intact (dodgy yellow one) implant and it exploded in my hand. 

but this is completely anecdotal as is most of the stories you read about on the internet.
As far as I am aware, there is no proven correlation between breast implants and the types of illness that are being reported but that is not to say that it doesnt exist

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2 hours ago, TheFox said:

okay so i am not an expert on this but I have been hit hard this year with a whole bunch of unexplained issues alot which fit the crieteria for breast implant related illness and I can say that now my implants are out I am feeling much better.

I had my implants for 4 years before they started causing me issues and i truly beelive the problem was that my implant had a micro rupture and was causing an acute inflammatory response in the breast and my body probably responded accoringly.

I would have no hesitation getting implants again because i really feel that my issues were caused by faulty or almost ruptured implant.
Interestingly I asked to keep them and the implant in my inflammed side was yellow. I picked it up the other day to have a squiz and I noticed air bubbbles inside it, there are none on the right implant which looks to be a normal colour. 
So i squeezed the apparently intact (dodgy yellow one) implant and it exploded in my hand. 

but this is completely anecdotal as is most of the stories you read about on the internet.
As far as I am aware, there is no proven correlation between breast implants and the types of illness that are being reported but that is not to say that it doesnt exist

Do you mind if i ask what type of implant you had? 

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I know a lot of ladies who have had their implants removed because of Breast Implant Illness. It is real. Although some surgeons do not believe in it.. well implants make a lot of money ;)  honestly I believe they will be banned one day. go on BII group on Facebook.. if you want some info. Id never get implants. Thats just me. I am getting Fat transfer instead. And a lot of people on here will disagree with me because they don't want to believe it because we all want to look good

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On 12/22/2017 at 12:06 PM, elleg said:

Do you mind if i ask what type of implant you had? 

Nagor breast implants

12 hours ago, Maria80 said:

I know a lot of ladies who have had their implants removed because of Breast Implant Illness. It is real. Although some surgeons do not believe in it.. well implants make a lot of money ;)  honestly I believe they will be banned one day. go on BII group on Facebook.. if you want some info. Id never get implants. Thats just me. I am getting Fat transfer instead. And a lot of people on here will disagree with me because they don't want to believe it because we all want to look good

fat grafting as a stand alone way to augment the breast has until recently been uninsurable by the medico insurane companies because of a supposed correlation between breast cancer and fat grafting the breast.
 

This is an ever evolving space. Until recently, they did not know the correlation between textured implants and a significantly increased incidence of ALCL. Maybe one day they will find a proven correlation between breast implants and related illnesses but for now, it seems to be to me at least, as about as real as immunisations causing autism.

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On 23 December 2017 at 9:34 PM, TheFox said:

Nagor breast implants

fat grafting as a stand alone way to augment the breast has until recently been uninsurable by the medico insurane companies because of a supposed correlation between breast cancer and fat grafting the breast.
 

This is an ever evolving space. Until recently, they did not know the correlation between textured implants and a significantly increased incidence of ALCL. Maybe one day they will find a proven correlation between breast implants and related illnesses but for now, it seems to be to me at least, as about as real as immunisations causing autism.

its been done for 20 so years in other parts of the world. It is now insured in Australia as no correlation btw cancer and FT to breast.

In fact, FT to breast has been done for a long time to breast cancer survivors as reconstructive surgery

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6 hours ago, Maria80 said:

its been done for 20 so years in other parts of the world. It is now insured in Australia as no correlation btw cancer and FT to breast.

I was not referring only to ALCL, .. Dr Victor Urzola who treats thousands of BII women (he performs enbloc and FT as these women are desperate for someone to remove their implants and to not be left disformed) is currently doing a research in correlation to implants and BII , as not many studies have been done to date. 

In fact, FT to breast has been done for a long time to breast cancer survivors as reconstructive surgery

im not disputing that fat grafting is and has been done to the beast, in fact, it is part of my reconstructive operative plan along with ADM. Im simply saying that fat transfer to the breasts has been claimed to have a link with cancer.
Most surgeons who perfom fat grafting to the breast here will only do so subdermal and not into the breast pocket itself and usually only modest amounts are transferred.
I doubt fat transfer as a stand alone breast augmentation technique will ever replace implants as there is too many variables, it is time consuming and does not always have a high success rate.

Anyway, I digress. There is no scientifically proven connection between breast implants and autoimmune disease or breast implant related illness.
 

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On 24 December 2017 at 3:21 PM, TheFox said:

im not disputing that fat grafting is and has been done to the beast, in fact, it is part of my reconstructive operative plan along with ADM. Im simply saying that fat transfer to the breasts has been claimed to have a link with cancer.
Most surgeons who perfom fat grafting to the breast here will only do so subdermal and not into the breast pocket itself and usually only modest amounts are transferred.
I doubt fat transfer as a stand alone breast augmentation technique will ever replace implants as there is too many variables, it is time consuming and does not always have a high success rate.

Anyway, I digress. There is no scientifically proven connection between breast implants and autoimmune disease or breast implant related illness.

 

I also distress, theres no scientifically proven connection between FT and breast cancer. Look into it. Why on earth would FT have been used on breast cancer patients for ages to fix their breast, if it would cause them more cancer. 

Not everyone will get sick from implants.. but some will. I guess depends if you want to take the risk or not. Plus the ongoing cost of replacing them, plus risk of rupture, flipping etc etc. And once you DO decide to get rid of them, you are left with empty bags of skin.

I have done enough research myself to know breast implant illness does happen, not to mention the close friends I know who have suffered. But anyway. Not at all here to argue. Each to their own and some people willl be fine with implants. I could be one of them, but I don't want to find out. In the states FT is an extremely popular procedure nowdays.. i think more and more women will opt for this option plus you get wonderful results with the RIGHT surgeon, not as extreme as with the implants but a more natural look. Plus the added bonus of liposuction. 

 

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@Maria80 i am not disputing anything about fat grafting to the breasts, I am actually having this procedure done as part of my reaugmentation. 
What i was merely trying to point out is that neither claims have been backed up by scientific evidence yet you choose to believe one claim over the other. 
Breast implants are also used on cancer patients as part of their reconstruction - to apply your logic to the argument, if breast implants made women sick, why on earth would they use them in cancer patient???

FYI, not everyone who has them removed will be left with empty saggy bags of skin, I certainly am not.

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On 28 December 2017 at 8:49 PM, TheFox said:

@Maria80 i am not disputing anything about fat grafting to the breasts, I am actually having this procedure done as part of my reaugmentation. 
What i was merely trying to point out is that neither claims have been backed up by scientific evidence yet you choose to believe one claim over the other. 
Breast implants are also used on cancer patients as part of their reconstruction - to apply your logic to the argument, if breast implants made women sick, why on earth would they use them in cancer patient???

FYI, not everyone who has them removed will be left with empty saggy bags of skin, I certainly am not.

- Yes, thats true! implants are also used on breast cancer patients. Very true. And yes, I agree with what you are saying.

- In regards to one of the other comments. FT is only done in modest amounts bc more of the fat will survive that way. That is why you can not get say 3 cup sizes increase in one session

- I guess I believe it because I have seen so many women who are very sick. I can't believe it would just be all in their head. surely.

- You are lucky you arent left with empty bags then. Ive seen so many pictures of women who remove their implants and are looking very disformed. I guess it depends on the person, their body etc for sure. All the best to you
 

Please anyone who is considering implants, look up some of the BII groups on FB. Do your research at least and then decide! all the best 

 

On 24 December 2017 at 10:23 AM, vlinder said:

Keep in mind that FT is not a one off procedure as 50% loss of volume occurs .

Next month i will have my 3de procedure for  that reason.

That depends on each and every person and surgeon. You may loose 50% or you may loose a ot less, I have seen women who have retained 70% or more.  I guess for me I am happy with 0.5 to 1 cup size increase. So nothing very dramatic. All the best.

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Well no, not so, according to my PS , i had another consult with yesterday.

He has just attended a conference with a German professor  lecturing  on fat crafting, he discussed a case about a female client that underwent 11 consecutive fat crafting procedures, done by him, to achieve the desired result.   With their combined expertise, i have to respect their combined opinions.

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On 22/12/2017 at 9:05 AM, TheFox said:

okay so i am not an expert on this but I have been hit hard this year with a whole bunch of unexplained issues alot which fit the crieteria for breast implant related illness and I can say that now my implants are out I am feeling much better.

I had my implants for 4 years before they started causing me issues and i truly beelive the problem was that my implant had a micro rupture and was causing an acute inflammatory response in the breast and my body probably responded accoringly.

I would have no hesitation getting implants again because i really feel that my issues were caused by faulty or almost ruptured implant.
Interestingly I asked to keep them and the implant in my inflammed side was yellow. I picked it up the other day to have a squiz and I noticed air bubbbles inside it, there are none on the right implant which looks to be a normal colour. 
So i squeezed the apparently intact (dodgy yellow one) implant and it exploded in my hand. 

but this is completely anecdotal as is most of the stories you read about on the internet.
As far as I am aware, there is no proven correlation between breast implants and the types of illness that are being reported but that is not to say that it doesnt exist

Let’s class action the implant brand ??‍♀️

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I’ve posted on here before asking about implant illness, because I am convinced that’s what I have, implant illness. I had mine put in 3 years ago and since then have become less functional as time goes on. The worst of all symptoms is the chronic fatigue which has left me basically unable to work, constantly swollen lymph glands and sore throat and getting sick all the time (pre implants I was that person that never had a sick day!). I have constant headaches and fuzziness too. The problem is, it’s so hard to prove that’s what’s causing my symptoms because there’s no test that can be done, but the more I read up on it the more convinced I am that I’m one of the unlucky ones that this has happened to. But my heart breaks at the thought of having them removed because I love them so much and hate what I had before, and I feel they would be even worse if I take them out having had them stretched with implants. They were flat pancakes before I had them done, what would they look like if I had them removed ? And of course the worry that I’ll have them removed and my symptoms won’t improve! It’s a real illness I don’t doubt it for a minute, I just wish I could know for sure. 

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5 hours ago, TheFox said:

Sign me up - I dont know how they are still selling them to be honest - surely they are aware that there is a huge design flaw that affects the life expectancy of the device

Yep! I had optic neuritis from the rupture and my bodies defence to the silicone. 6 weeks blind in one eye, now I’m hearing more and more of it happening I believe it’s a poor implant design!

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