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yes Pagey because you had yours in a proper hospital even if it is a day surgery hospital it is allowed to use GA as they are able to respond to anything that may go wrong. TCI use their own clinics which are not hospitals so they can't use GA.

Oh okay good. I was scared I was put into a dangerous situation. I'm so glad I didn't go with TCI.

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I had my BA yesterday & I had GA in a day surgery hospital. What a great experience it was, I was asleep within 15 seconds of being given the drip. I would be nervous of waking up during twilight!! If the allegations are true TCI will be in huge trouble!! I don't know whether they'd be so stupid to do that though..

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EMJ and bdayboobies just curious to know how you know you were knocked out? As I understand twilight you can be awake and in pain and thrashing around trying to stop surgeon etc but then have no recollection of being awake afterwards. Is it possible that as you have no memory you think you were knocked out or do you know that you were out???

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EMJ and bdayboobies just curious to know how you know you were knocked out? As I understand twilight you can be awake and in pain and thrashing around trying to stop surgeon etc but then have no recollection of being awake afterwards. Is it possible that as you have no memory you think you were knocked out or do you know that you were out???

basically within seconds of me putting my head down on the surgery bed i was out instantly. i woke up once during surgery and remember trying to take the mask off my face and hearing someone say omg shes awake and putting my hand back on the table (no pain was felt) and then they must have pumped more in me cause i went out straight away again. I woke up in recovery fine, And i told the nurse and she was trying to tell me i was hullucinating. I walked out of recovery within 5 mins of me waking up. I cant be sure of what they used in fact it was never mentioned in my consult what type of anesthetic was used and i never bothered to ask (which i should have).

I guess i can only go by my experience and the way i felt :) and if they have used it on more than one patient in the past whos to say they havent been continuing to do so?

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EMJ and bdayboobies just curious to know how you know you were knocked out? As I understand twilight you can be awake and in pain and thrashing around trying to stop surgeon etc but then have no recollection of being awake afterwards. Is it possible that as you have no memory you think you were knocked out or do you know that you were out???

Well I didn't have an experience like bdayboobies (That sounds freaking scary) I walked in and they laid me on the bed, they then strapped me down and said "We have to put these on because sometimes people try and get of the bed" I had a needle in my arm and then he put a gas mask over my face, I was getting sooooo sleepy and started seeing fuzzy pink and blue spots on the ceiling, then that was it, the next thing I woke up in recovery...

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Well I didn't have an experience like bdayboobies (That sounds freaking scary) I walked in and they laid me on the bed, they then strapped me down and said "We have to put these on because sometimes people try and get of the bed" I had a needle in my arm and then he put a gas mask over my face, I was getting sooooo sleepy and started seeing fuzzy pink and blue spots on the ceiling, then that was it, the next thing I woke up in recovery...

your experience is so completely different to mine its not even funny!

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GA knocks you right out so you can't even breathe for yourself and require assisted airways.

twilight sedation to my understanding is just sedation where you are still able to breathe on your own but feel drunk/high and are at a lower level of consciousness so you wouldn't remember or know what's going on anyway.

from what i have heard its pretty common to half wake up during surgery with twilight sedation but you shouldn't feel any pain because they usually inject the operating area with local anaesthetic which completely numbs the targeted area. everyones experience is different. two of my friends who have had BA under twilight recall waking up briefly during the surgery but not feeling any pain and been given more sedation to send them straight back to la la land lol

GA comes with its own complications and risks.

i read the article and the only proof they seem to have that TCI has done wrong is 1 person's word which could have been an error in communication. will be interesting to see the outcome but considering the popular and widespread use of twilight sedation during BA i don't really see what TCI would have to gain by putting people under GA. GA is more expensive too.

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Hopefully the controversy does what Dr Fleming said it should do in the article and get the various groups together to set the standards as to what is acceptable in the cosmetic industry. The only reason twillight is widespread is because its not as regulated and its cheaper. That doesn't mean it is better and appropriate to be used for this type of procedure. I'm no expert but I think there is a need for investigation and regulation.

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